Court makes remarkable Apology to Malicious Mother who poisoned children against their Father
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Editor: The below article is about a disgraceful act by Australia’s Family Law Courts, to completely destroy any shred of child protection provisions left in Australia’s Family Law act, by making an unprecedented apology to a malicious mother who has alienation her children against their father.
This is the Court, at its highest levels, over-turning a sitting Magistrates decision and rewarding a Mother who has engaged in Parental Alienation to an extreme degree, for no apparent legally justified reason.
You have to seriously ask why the Family Law act was amended by the Gillard Labor government recently when the Judiciary has already interpreted out any provisions designed to promote a child’s meaningful relationship with both parents.
Chief Federal Magistrate John H. Pascoe is a fool and an unfit custodian of a child’s best interests for sinking so low as to apologise to such a malicious woman, all in the name of appeasing women’s groups. This is the kind of precedent that will encourage Parental Alienation as the standard tactic for getting sole custody of your children, especially if you are an unfit parent.
To all separating Australian Mothers, message from the Court: ‘We encourage you to involve your children in divorce proceedings, to their detriment, and to alienate them against their father. If you do so, we guarantee that you will get sole custody, even if we have to sack a sitting Judicial Officer for acting in the best interests of your children.’
Just keep one point in mind here..the federal Magistrates Court has tried to sack a Magistrate who did nothing worse than act according to the law, and in the best interests of the children. If this is not an indication that the institutions of the Family Law Courts are infected by an ideology rather then dispensing the law as intended in the Act, then God knows what is.
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A SYDNEY mother has received a written apology from the chief of the Federal Magistrates Court after her three children were removed from her care for refusing to visit their father.
In a letter of a type rarely seen in Australia, Chief Federal Magistrate John H. Pascoe said he was “very deeply concerned” at the distress the mother suffered after her children were taken from her.
He said the treatment the mother received in court was “quite inconsistent with the aims of the court in dealing with family matters” and added: “I have a great deal of sympathy for you.”
The woman, who cannot be named, was accused in court of “poisoning” the children against their father by involving them in the custody dispute. The children were twin boys aged 14 and their 12-year-old sister.
The magistrate in the case, Joseph Harman, told the woman he believed she was doing irreparable psychological harm to the children by not encouraging them to see their father.
In a hearing at the Parramatta branch of the Federal Magistrates Court, Mr Harman said the children would have no relationship with their father if they were allowed to stay with their mother. He based his ruling on the findings of a court psychologist.
Under the laws on shared parenting brought in by the Howard government in 2006, couples were encouraged to “co-parent” their children after divorce.
The Senate passed amendments to those laws last week. Men’s rights groups have complained the Labor government is winding back shared care, but women’s groups say the amendments are necessary to protect children from harm.
When Mr Harman told the Sydney mother he had decided to send the children to live full-time with their father, her lawyer immediately objected, saying the “extraordinary” move “would remove the children from the mother, instantly, with no communication whatsoever”.
Mr Harman replied: “That’s a bit like what happened in June-July last year, when the children were removed from any time with their father, and haven’t communicated with him since.”
Counsel for the mother told the court the children had become hysterical when told of the order, and were refusing to leave the court with their father.
The magistrate said this was typical of children who had been taught to fear their father.
The mother left the court “distressed and about to vomit” and an ambulance was called. Two NSW police officers attended the court after the children began damaging court property in the foyer.
The mother’s lawyer then told the court that if the children were forced to go with their father they would run away.
“That’s why I’ve invited the Department (of Community Services) to intervene,” Mr Harman said. “If they don’t comply, they will be in a refuge. They won’t be going home with mum.”
Two senior child welfare officers from the NSW Department of Community Services were called to the court. Mr Harman told them: “We have two children, sorry, three children, two of whom are twin boys who have just turned 14, so young, strong and full of testosterone, and a 12-year-old girl.
“They are now expressing very strong entrenched views that they are not going anywhere with their father. I have just made an order that they are to go home with him.
“I have also made an order, subject to the power of arrest if anyone breaches it, that neither mum nor any member of her family are to go and talk to them.
“If these children refuse to go anywhere with their father, I would like you to exercise your emergency powers and take them into care.
“Those are the three options: they go home with dad or they go home with the director. They are not leaving this building with mum.”
He added: “If you need the assistance of police or security, downstairs will help with that.”
However, neither police nor the social workers were willing to physically force the children, who were described as “verging on hysterical”, into a refuge or into their father’s care.
One of the police officers told Mr Harman the children were in “a highly aggressive, agitated and hysterical state” and one social worker tried to explain it would be impossible to force the children to go with the father, since it may “see them break away, or run away, and be vulnerable on the streets”.
Mr Harman conceded defeat, saying: “These children have now been present in this court since 11.30am, and accordingly have been here for the best part of eight hours and have maintained a steadfast refusal to leave (the court) with the father.”
He said the children’s mother had helped whip “them into a frenzy” about being sent to a refuge, and so he agreed to let the children leave with a maternal aunt. Their mother was banned from any contact with them for a month, including by mobile telephone and email. She was also banned from going within 500m of their school.
The mother has told The Australian the order removing the children was overturned after a month, with no explanation.
“They came back to me, and they are still with me, and I never heard another word from the court until I suddenly got that apology (on November 9),” the mother said. “He did so much damage to my children, I believe he should be sacked.”
Mr Harman was asked to stand down from the court last month while he received counselling for a series of judgments that had to be overturned on appeal.
In one case, he revealed he had a sexual relationship with the lawyer who was acting for the wife, and then refused to disqualify himself from the hearing.
Mr Pascoe said he had been made aware of “some complaints” against Mr Harman, who had “agreed to be restricted to non-sitting duties”.
Mr Harman has since resumed hearing cases at Parramatta “on a limited basis” and is subject to continuing review of his performance.
He did not respond to a request for an interview.
Mr Harman was appointed by federal Attorney-General Robert McClelland in July last year. In a statement, Mr McClelland said he was “aware of concerns raised in relation to Federal Magistrate Harman in the performance of his judicial duties”.
Under the Federal Magistrates Act, magistrates “must not be removed from office, except by the Governor-General, on an address from both Houses of Parliament . . . praying for his or her removal on the grounds of proved misbehaviour or incapacity”.
by Carolyn Overington
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Brazil, amazingly, is far ahead:
Brazilian Parental Alienation Law (English translation)
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Dave, Alex, Neil and every person in these posts I exult you all and give thanks to know people still have a heart for our kids. I am sure we all make at least one good point OUR KIDS NEED US ALL. That being said I would like to thank all of you that have contributed as it is these type of posts that a man in a dark place can open to find a light.
*DEATH IS A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO A PART TIME PROBLEM*
Through talking and knowing that real men do cry i myself must admit to being a big sook cried many of river though anyone who understands these feelings knows every tear shed is for our children as fathers we only hope to hold and protect yet are kept silent.
SO CRY DONT FRY THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE FOR KEEPING IT REAL FOR THE LOVE OF OURSELVES TO EQUALLY LOVE OUR CHILDREN AS WE MUST LOVE ONES SELF TO HOLD OUR HEARTS FOR OUR CHILDREN.
special thnks 2 DAVE *** CHEERS MERRY CHRISTMAS BROTHERS AND SISTERS
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Bradley Mckell
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i had a child removed from my care my first born it was called adoption it caused severe trauma to myself….i went on and had two more little girls to a marriage…..my third one died at the age of five of a brain stem tumour i nursed her through all of her illness and was with her when she passed over…..after she died the first child of mine came back into my life metaphorically speaking and i went to the govt and told the premier of the time she was kidnapped and theyopened up the records…..i had to wait another five years as she was only 13 at the time…..her father offered me money for an abortion….i ended up having a breakdown and while i was in the hospital my second ones father also father to my third had taken her out of my home on my return from hospital…..her father and his family his mother actually rang me and told me i was a bad mother…..i did get her back and after what they did still sent her to her father on access visits…..i was told i didnt have to by a solicitor but i did …..however i went on and had another little girl three years later…..unfortunately her father was violent he was sadistic and he was horrible to me and my children……i sent my second one back to her father for a while to protect her from this monster my fourth ones father …..anyway the thanks i got was a family law case against me for being an abusive mother…..says a lot doesnt it…..what happens in a case where one parent is abusive namely the father in my case is it right to send children to them or access or is it a mothers job to protect her children against these monsters……pedophiles are entitled to access to children according to family law courts…..i think across the board laws should be made that no child should ever be removed from their mothers……and access granted to the father unless he is violent i know some women lie but most dont there are the occassional few and how many men have killed the children while on access with the father as a vendetta against the mother…..its happened too many times…..leave all children with their mothers and allow the father access…..is the way to go…..there is no child without the mother none of us are here without our mothers…..what part does a father play in the birthing experience….he played a small part right at the beginning the conception happens in a womans body and its time men learnt to respect and love the mothers of those children…..none of us walk this earth without our mothers……the native american indians worshipped the ground their women walk on and so too should eveyone else its a sacred act giving birth and no mother should ever have those children removed from her…..i have come across fathers who have lied and bragged about it how they used false psychology reports to get them too…..what heroes they are….all men should be ashamed from taking children from their mothers all of them…..i have some wonderful men friends who would not ever do this and my hat goes off to them…..they have my respect…..no judge in any law court will ever have my respect…..
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dave aldridge. Reply:
December 17th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Sorry but i hate to think where my daughter would have ended up if she had been left with her mother. After 3 years of being with her mother her life was almost totally destroyed. She came to live with me when she was 8 yo. Now at 21 yo she has just completed a 4 year psychology degree with 1st class honours and should (if there is any reward for hard work) be starting her PHD next year. She is now a qualified psychologist in her own right. I’m afraid you will NEVER convince me, and you would find it even harder to convince my daughter, that she would have been better off with her mother. I AM NOT IN ANY WAY ASHAMED OF TAKING MY DAUGHTER AWAY FROM HER MOTHER IN FACT I’M PROUD OF HAVING DONE SO DESPITE THE ENORMOUS COST AND WHAT I HAD TO GO THROUGH AND OF BEING ABLE TO TAKE HER TO THE HIGH LEVEL SHE HAS NOW ACHIEVED.
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zac Reply:
December 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am
“All mothers” you say Julie. Well my daughter (now 15) had a pre-school mate who was brutally murdered with a pair of dressmakers scissors BY HIS MOTHER’S HAND and then thrown into a dam 400 km from his loving home.
His name was James and he was 4 years old. We parents (mainly dads)built a memorial cubby house in his honour. Evil and good are found in both genders.
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bradley mckell Reply:
December 19th, 2011 at 2:56 am
broken biscuits in every tin. Assholes yes everyone has one though only the ones who speak from their ass have opinion where people who speak TRUTH AND FACT like our children being abused on many levels are words to be embraced. While you continue to squabble against one another over ass talk our children are taking the broad-walk. Again I do not have the answers but would prefer to be part of the solution not the bloody problem .
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john Reply:
December 19th, 2011 at 4:05 am
Thats a very sad story Julie, my heart goes out to you, but its not all fathers, and its not all mothers, Fathers don’t want to take the children the love and the care away from their Mother, they just want to share the love and the care, and they, in their hearts and minds want to protect their children also, the best outcomes for these children, mothers and fathers, is when they can go around the corner to their dads, and around the corner to their mums, without any broken hearts , without any hate or head trips, where each parent is respected for who they are, and the role they play in the care and the love for their children as individuals, free from the trouble that was in, and came out of the marriage between these two people, no one should destroy the image in the hearts and minds of their children that they have for their mother or their father, regardless of the crap between the two waring parents, whether its a mother or a father doing it, if you get what i mean, the court needs to rise above the angers and the wars between parents, not actually take advantage of the war, that a lot of broken marriages produce, particularly when its just broken down, they should be saying i don’t want to hear the crap and why it happened , you’ve got the rest of your lives to work that out, it takes two to make it work and two to make it fail, but they don’t do they, they rub their hands together and fill their pockets and their soap opera brains, they should be saying look go away, go and get close enough abode wise for this to happen , and if either of you don’t do that and make it happen, ill be wanting to know why, and which one of you hasn’t wanted to make it happen, or has caused it not to happen, ok, ill see you both back here in three months , ok, next case, see ya later. and unless there is fairdinkum violence or criminal activity thats how it should be. I’m sorry but there are assholes out there, and sometimes they do horrible things, sometimes we marry them, but don’t please go and hate, or imagine that all mothers or fathers, one or the other, is more important than another, or should take a secondary or lesser role in the love and care of our children, because hey Julie, there’s some good dads out there too, who feel the same way about dads, and losing their children too, and most of them have grown up in single parent houses, most of these guys here probably, and we all love our mothers , maybe thats why we are so paternal maternal, times have changed and so have fathers, they are much more closer to their kids now, its so sad for these dads, times have changed but the old school of thought still lives, especially when it comes to breakdown and the courts, men are closer to that feeling you have as a mother now as fathers,anyway I can understand you feeling like you do with asshole blokes like the ones you’ve had to endure or cope with, And i agree with you no one should take the children away from the mother especially Mothers like you who I can clearly see loves their children, I wish we could all be friends, and just care for one another for our kids and our care for them, and share the joy of parenting . I hoe your at a better pace in your life and your relationship with your kids, and have a peaceful happy home and situation, stay away from bad men hey, if you can spot em that is, ok cut it out, their not all bad
, new beginnings, new years, peace and joy always, john
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With 5 New MP’s, of which 1 is, after not being able to handle the job of Health, given the job of AG to further destroy our society with.
Like continue to refuse to make a “Judicial Misbehaviour Committee” for the public to file complaints of Judicial Misbehaviour with.
The High Court refuse to hear the Writs for these complaints, and the Constitution requires Parliament to enable, “Proved Misbehaviour”, to occur.
This due to it is 1 of the only 2 conditions of removal of judicial right to hold title and act as an Instrument of the Court their “Misbehaviour” brings into disrepute.
Hence our Instruments of the Courts exercising judicial (the Queens Power) power continue to commit crimes against the laws of the Commonwealth and are not able to be held accountable or have the resualt of those crimes corrected.
The argument of: “but you have recourse by APPEAL,” is a joke on the people and child/ren harmed and/or done wrong by, the judicial “Misbehaviour”.
Like the matter (reported as LGM and CAM regarding a mother’s Contempt of Court Orders regarding financial matters) the dishonourable Bryant CJ sought to rely on in the Family Court Bulletin December 2008 issue as a demonstration that women can be found in Contempt of the Courts Orders.
To I, 2 primary points came from this matter:
1. The intent of the Superior Instruments of the Court, the Appeals Division, hence policy, is turn on any evidence (as a rule of thumb) of a mother’s wrongdoing, violence and the like. Claim it cannot be proven the mother knew what the Orders were that were made in her presence and she had viewed on the Court File plus sought a copy of (the lawyer refused to admit he had given her a copy of the Orders). All to protect a mother from prosecution of an offence created by a law of the Commonwealth (s.112AP of the Act) hence to a perversion of justice by the Appeals Division.
2. Hence my 2 point: Luckily the father must have had money because he took it to the High Court and paid for a proper finding the mother did know the Orders she acted in Contempt of existed and were alive, hence she could not do what she did without being in Contempt of the Court.
The next joke is her penalty, which was minute compared with that of any man who had done the same.
Another example is when Cronin J wilfully stated to me, from the bench, my ex cannot be held in Contempt of the Courts Orders for our son to reside with her.
This was stated by Cronin J in Contempt of his Oat or Affirmation of Office and defiance, if not perversion of justice by obstruction of s.112AP of the Act prosecution for a wilful breach and flagerant chellange to the Court of acting in breach of an Order of the Court.
This was after he was properly informed the mother kicked our son out of her residence “in Contempt of the Courts Orders” to live on the street with no immediate ability to contact any of his friends or me, which he did for about a month before finding me.
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Put carrots in front of donkeys, and you can lead them any ware! Brake down the family unit, this will alienate individuals with in their own community. Making them more reliant on the government! (A police and nanny state) Family law is designed to brake down the family unit. Look at the divorce rate since its conception back in 1975. No wonder our community is violent and drugfuked. Family law has turned our children, into little meal tickets! And objects of financial value to be bartered with, in a court of law. This is true child abuse! It’s a fathers love and duty to protect his offspring’s! 24-7! They have been F__king with our human rights, and civil liberties! And now their f__king with our families! What else do you expect from government! It must be time for action! (A national rally) Or have we all lost our “balls” I’m in 4 it! Personally, I’d go to jail on a hunger strike! Before putting up with this sort of shit! What a route! Look at all the sad and angry children out there! The rise in youth suicide! Time 4 men 2 B “Men”
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john Reply:
December 16th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Not a more truer statement Peter, “It’s a fathers love and duty to protect his offspring’s! 24-7! ” well said, woke up this morning with the words “he wont be told will he” , she wont be told will she”, they wont be told will they, don’t know what it means, but it made me think of the Family court, and Mental Health the people that pick up the scraps or results of the family court damage. just thought i had to say that, thanks for those words, cant help playing this one lately http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc&ob=av3e and then writing, try it, nothing better for speaking from the heart.
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Ian Mack Reply:
December 16th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Yes john, the “Black Eyed Peas” performing “Where Is The Love” would be a good song for the theme of a group who are focused on returning justice, the law and the “Best Interests of the Child” back into the Family Law system.
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Revoke all licences to practice Family Law) and replace them with a Single Mediator (NOT FRC’s), probably the Family Lawyers retrained in Non Bias mediation with power to witness Court Enforcable Agreements made between the parties.
This would immediately halve the number of hands being placed on the Family purse but require an army of McKenzie Friends supplied by or at Legal Aid fixed costs (not costs created by the Court) to assist in filling out the paperwork for the mediator to use to assist guiding parties to agreements.
But that is only a pipe dream when you look at what has just happened with our Parliament.
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zac Reply:
December 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am
It’s a great pipe dream Ian.
Did you hear the comments of Prof. Jen McIntosh (psycologist/ mediator) last week after she was asked to formulate guidelines for paternal access for children under 2 years old….She has recommended that fathers have minimal access to their children.
As Inspector Harry Callahan (Clint Eastwood) once said, “Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one.”
Ian Mack Reply:
December 16th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Well said Peter Peterson, hence what I said to Naomi which she has not replied to.
“Naomi, I put to you, what on earth is going on in your head?
Or are your hormones so out of control you cannot see what is in front of you.”
“What concerns me is it appears criminal elements, exercising judicial power as Instruments of the Court, have been destroying our society since 1975, consistent with they are Communist or Taliban Insurgents/ Infidels, more effective than a bomber.”
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OUR CHILDREN OUR CHILDREN WHERE ARE OUR CHILDREN WHILE WE ALL GO AROUND THE MERRY GO ROUND NOT ONLY OUR CHILDREN BUT ALSO ONE ANOTHER ARE BEING SLOWLY BUT SURLY BURIED IN THE GROUND ONE BY ONE AS IT IS NOT WORDS NEEDED BUT ACTION. TOGETHER WE CAN STAND ALONE LIKE MYSELF WE DIE MURDERED EMOTIONALLY WORLDWIDE NOT JUST AUSTRALIA I AM FED UP AND READY TO LAY DOWN AND DIE AS WORDS GO AROUND OUR CHILDREN NOT MINE ALONE ARE HAVING THEIR CHILDHOOD STOLEN.
DO NOT JUST BLAME WOMAN WHILE WE STAND AND TALK DO NOT BLAME EACH OTHER WHILE WE STAND HERE AND TALK OUR CHILDREN NEED PARENTS NOT A PARENT TOGETHER ACTION CAN BE TAKEN WHILE WORDS DO NOTHING OUR CHILDREN SUFFER IN SILENCE I BLAME MYSELF AS MUCH AS THE OTHER THOUGH AGAIN WORDS CAN NOT MAKE A GARDEN GROW BUT ACTION TAKES OUT THE WEEDS TO REPLACE ALL THE NEEDS AND ALLOW THE ROOM FOR HEALTHY YOUNG SEEDS WHILE WORDS ARE SPOKEN THE GARDEN IS BROKEN SO WHERE YOU SEE WEEDS RIP THEM OUT SO OUR YOUNG MAY SPROUT.
IN PAIN THIS IS WRITTEN AS OUR FAMILIES ARE BITTEN
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bradley mckell Reply:
December 14th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
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Well said Jim! We have to find a way to join forces and stop the hatred campaigners so that we can move forward.
Ian what on earth is going on in your head?
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Ian Mack Reply:
December 13th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Naomi,
Maybe you should be asking you that question considering the few bits of evidence and the FM’s thinking (I have attached below) we have been privy to. This gives a little insight into what Harman FM saw, was being caused to occur, with these children, like a mother’s threats of “you see dad and you never see me again” as what happened with our son.
Like in the case of Aaron 5/9/2011 on f4e: http://www.f4e.com.au/blog/2011/08/29/napcan-when-protecting-children-is-compromised/#more-1117
and another I am privy to in the Parramatta Registry where the mother is now refusing to hand over the child to the father because the child is having panic attacks after he was assaulted while in the mother’s care.
The mother’s refusal to hand over the child is to conceal evidence of the mother’s wrongdoings Flohm J has already refused a right of Police to air in the Court and now the Court has destroyed physical evidence of the mother’s wrongdoings.
In this F4E matter, Harman FM has acted on the evidence of the court psychologist, and do to a mother what the mother did or had done for wrongful purpose in about June or July last year, to the father,
Hence the entrenched Parental Alienation of children demonstrated by the children committing their mother’s type of disgusting dysfunctional misbehaviour and tantrums of refusal to do what they should as children.
The evidence is highlighted by the statements:
“He based his ruling on the findings of a court psychologist.” (clearly no evidence of the father doing a wrong or there would be no findings to give support to the Orders)
“When Mr Harman told the Sydney mother he had decided to send the children to live full-time with their father, her lawyer immediately objected, saying the “extraordinary” move “would remove the children from the mother, instantly, with no communication whatsoever””.
“Mr Harman replied: “That’s a bit like what happened in June-July last year, when the children were removed from any time with their father, and haven’t communicated with him since.””
To me, it is not Harman FM who did the wrong, hence he cannot be removed from his office, only punished for not being obedient to the Courts unwriten Policies of: ABUSE THE CHILDREN AND FATHER’S and protect the mother at any cost.
This is like the matter I have returning in January to have a child I have no contact with taken off the Australian Passport Watch List so that child (about 14yr old) can travel to the ex’s, ex’s family in Lebanon (had to be turned down because of the aforesaid) or our family NZ if another offer for her to travel is given before she turns 18.
Our son just had his name removed after a lawyer and Senior Registrar told him he could not swear an affidavit (needed “Leave of the Court to swear an affidavit) in the Court in breach of s.100B of the Act. This was an attempt to cause him to withdraw the application he himself had made to the Court but because he said he sought to continue the application the Rgistrar grant “Leave” that was not required.
The Contempt, the Instrument of the Court exercising judicial power committed, was an act in breach of s.37C of the Act, being their Oath or Affirmation of Office, by an act of demonstrating “Ill-Will” and breach of claiming an other than right by law against s.100B and 69C of the Act.
The right of a child to make an application in the Court and the right to swear an affidavit in support without the “Leave of the Court”.
Naomi, I put to you, what on earth is going on in your head?
Or are your hormones so out of control you cannot see what is in front of you.
What concerns me is it appears criminal elements, exercising judicial power as Instruments of the Court, have been destroying our society since 1975, consistent with they are Communist or Taliban Insurgents/ Infidels, more effective than a bomber.
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bradley mckell Reply:
December 14th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
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Jim and Anna Jones,
You sound like what is called: A TRUE BELIEVER of an ALIENATING PARENT.
That is someone who, in-spite of the EVIDENCE OF A PARENT ALIENATING A CHILD or turning children against the other parent, is you are someone who aids and abets that alienating person to turn children away from the other parent for no just cause other than want and power.
That is you have more wish to do harm to children than good for them.
Harman FM, to me, did what was needed pursuant to the evidence that had been put to him, being: the mother for no good reason, had prevented children from seeing or spending time with the Father and his family to alienate them from the Father and his family, other than for her reason of her dysfunctional thinking of a want to abuse the power of a woman that is held between her legs.
Jim, although you may be Anna’s btch, you do not have to be a btch.
All you need to do is understand you can see the truth as it is and what Anna says is what she wants to see is the truth rather than what is, is.
The dishonourable Mushin J is just like you in his dishonourable claim to me of “THE TRUTH IS NOT WHAT IS, BUT WHAT I SEE IT TO BE.”
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Jim and Anna Jones Reply:
December 11th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
You have obviously been very hurt and not in a good place emotionally. Let me know when you are ready for mature debate!
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I would suggest the editor start researching facts before jumping to conclusions. That is not a way to get support for your cause. It is also “whipping up hysteria”.
I am a man. I have 3 children. I have friends who are fathers and mothers who have gone through divorce (good and bad).
If you had done a slight bit of research you would understand that FM Magsitrate has a bipolar disorder. He was made a magistrate AFTER suffering a mental break down. In his first year on the bench, he has made numerous decisions that are now under investigation. The quote from a Court official is the quality of FM decisions vary depending on whether he is taking his medication. He has been asked to step down but he refuses.
He has made maniac decisions against mothers and fathers.
The statements he made in this case were from a Hollywood script. He is a loose cannon. The reason the apology came was because the transcript was read by many people and ALL cannot believe the statements this man made. He is very sick.
Appeals and claims have now started against Harman and the Federal Government. He is a significant liability for the federal government.
By taking aim at the mother, you have missed the point. The legal system has serious problems. Federal Magistrates have no-one above them, Laywers are running the system to make money. It is a cancerous system that can only be fixed by those that are currently profiting from it.
The only way to ensure the CHILDREN are protected is to change the system. Making it a fathers v mothers argument is irresponsible.
Jim Jones
Manly, Australia
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Interesting you should cite the Parramatta Family Court Instruments exercising Judicial Powers and Family Law Legal’s: being abusive, greedy and corrupt mongrels, who don’t give two hoots about the kids involved.
Yes, the Court staff should have re-introduced the father from the other side of the room and asked the children why they were fearful of him (mother making claims of choose; father or me, or psyhic false memories of abuse) rather than force children, who had fears, to have those fears reinforced by enforcement of Orders with no consideration for what had been implanted on those children’s minds by the mother, legal reps and psychologists trained in fabricating memory like Jackson.
What you bring to mind is the day I was in a Courtroom at Parramatta where a Legal (Brown) wrongly claimed (made a misrepresentation) to a Registrar that a Judicial Instrument (dishonourable Flohm J) had demanded Contravention Applications filed in the Court should be placed before her to be determined at a limited time Final Hearing for additional evidence hearing.
In Contempt of conflict of Interest Claims and Misrepresentation by the Legal, sought by the Father, the Registrar did return the hearing of the Contraventions to Flohm J. This caused about a 2+ month delay of there hearing, in the 1st instance of the 1st of the 2 perversions of justice caused:
1. Wrongful delay of Contraventions to fabricate evidence for additional evidence to be heard by the dishonourable Flohm J, requiring immediate enforcement, correction and make-up time.
2. Placement of matters alive/filed placed in the hands of a dishonourable Instrument of the Court who could not hear (admitted by Flohm J) the Contraventions due to the evidence was part, if not, the primary additional evidence sought to be presented and presented before Flohm J for her Final Judgement.
The dishonourable Flohm J did claim a latter return date would be granted for those Contravention Applications before her dishonourable Honour.
But in CONTEMPT of her own words, the dishonourable Flohm J, did in the Final Orders determined and dismissed those applications after refusing Police, subpoenaed, a right to present their evidence that was not in the mother’s favour.
Since then the High Court have done everything they can to prevent the Father from identifying (by s.75(v) of the Constitution Writ) (see link following) the dishonourable Misbehaviours of Flohm J and correction of Flohm J’s dishonourable Misbehaviour http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s75.html) to prevent “Proved Misbehaviour” that can be presented to Parliament for a s.72(ii) of the Australian Constitution (see link following) Pray by both Houses of Parliament to the Governor-General. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s72.html
Hence my claims the Attorney-General of the Commonwealth, the dishonourable McClelland, is dishonourable and has made many derelictions of duty/office and aided and abetted High and Family Court Judicial Instruments in their perversions of justice by refusal to cause Inquiries, sought by petitons to Parliament, into the Wrongs perpetrated by these dishonest and dishonourable Judicial Instruments of OUR COURTS, thereby many AG Misrepresentations to our Parliament.
P.S.
The mother of the child of the Father I was at a hearing of is now refusing to allow the father any time with their child and refused to go to that child’s aid when that child was assaulted by persons the mother left that child with while she went off partying.
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this article has been taken out of context….. Harman is a well-known Bipolar. the woman in the article was actually in court for an Interim property order. and the kids were taken from her on the spot. there is so much collusion and corruption in the Parramatta Court. it is not a gender issue —–its an issue with the legals and judicials. we are all being abused by these greedy and corrupt mongrels who dont give two hoots about the kids involved. the system is WRONG.
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Sorry this is so long but it is what we have to look forward too,
The federal Attorney-General, the dishonourable Robert McClelland has claimed he will reinstate the “Parliamentary (Judicial Misbehaviour and Incapacity) Committee Bill” for Parliament to create a committee that can inquire into complaints of Instruments of the Courts exercising judicial power (judges, federal magistrates and registrars alike), for the purpose of Parliamentary “Proved Misbehaviour or Incapacity” .
The problem the dishonourable AG has is: if such a Committee was created then, half the High Court and about half the Family Court judicial Instruments (Judges) and some Federal Magistrates would be found guilty of breaching Laws of the Commonwealth.
Thereby acted in will-full Contempt of their Oath or Affirmation of Office. Each of these issues is “Proved Misbehaviour” within the meaning of “Misbehaviour” when a Committee aforesaid makes such a finding to cause “Proved Misbehaviour”.
The way I see it is: Chief Federal Magistrate John H. Pascoe must be found as having committed a will-full demonstration of “Affection or Favour” towards the mother for he to write the letter claimed he wrote. This would be done as an act of “Will-Full” “Contempt” of his “Oath or Affirmation of Office”, thereby committed “Provable Misbehaviour” in breach of his terms of Tenure (employment).
Another issue for a Parliamentary (Judicial Misbehaviour and Incapacity) Committee to inquire into, hence the Instruments of the Courts exercising judicial power pray the dishonourable AG will not allow such a Committee be created to enable their ongoing “Derelictions of Duty”, while making fraudulent claims for remuneration for duties not preformed, and/or actions committed in breaches of their undertakings to the Court, and/or in breach of the Laws and Constitution of the Commonwealth.
A question I have is how were the Orders of Federal Magistrate Joseph Harman overturned?
Did an Instrument of the Family Court make a Writ of Certiorari, transfer those Orders to the Family Court and then Quash those Orders? (this Court has no such Power due to s.39B(1EA) of the Judiciary 1903 which has been rammed down my throat by those judicial instruments.)
Or
Did the Chief Federal Magistrate John H. Pascoe simply make an Order in the nature or like of a Writ of Certiorari he has no power to make and remake Orders while there is no application before him to make those Orders? (Again, Chief Federal Magistrate John H. Pascoe has no such Power to make a Writ or like Order due to s.39B(1EA) of the Judiciary 1903)
Or
Was the High Court asked to make a Writ of Certiorari, transfer those Orders to the High Court and then Quash those Orders?
(This Court is the only Court that has that Power and it is probable Hayne, Crennan and/or Kiefel JJ of that Court would have done just that as they often Abuse Their Powers bestowed on they, to pervert justice and act in will-full breach of Laws of the Commonwealth and Dereliction of Duty.
Hence, the federal Attorney-General, the dishonourable Robert McClelland will not allow a “Parliamentary (Judicial Misbehaviour and Incapacity) Committee Bill”, he will allow it to be presented to Parliament for the wrongful purpose of a fraudulent claim for remuneration for duties not preformed, that is with other than an honest intent of creating such a Committee.
This wrongful abuse of public funds can be seen at: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/summary/summary.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=customrank;page=0;query=Dataset_Phrase%3Abillhome%20Title%3Ajudicial;resCount=Default
This bill has been present 2005, 2007 to sit in the wings or on the shelf of the Senate until those Parliaments Lapsed.
This again occurred 2008 for it to Laps 2010 at the end of that Parliament, so where is it now?
Probably waiting in the hands of some MP for they to be rewarded for presentation of a Bill that is not allowed to be seen or made, due to the judicial Instruments of our Federal Courts have threatened they will resign if this Bill is ever made and the Committee created.
This the dishonourable Mushin J stated to me, from the bench in about Sept 2005 with the claim, quote, “Judges are Immune from Prosecution (Proved Misbehaviour”) or they will all resign tomorrow”, unquote.
Yes, I have a copy of the Transcript of that Hearing to prove beyond doubt what I say is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
NOTE: the 2005 (Judicial Misbehaviour and Incapacity) Committee Bill was removed from Parliament shortly after the dishonourable Mushin J made this statement to me, and a complaint of the dishonourable Mushin J’s misbehaviour was in the hands of the dishonourable Bryant CJ and the AG of that day.
The dishonourable Bryant CJ granted the dishonourable Mushin J immunity from prosecution to obstruct a course of justice sought to cause “Proved Judicial Misbehaviour” that Kirby J latter claimed from the Bench of the High Court, in effect, judges have the power to prevent “Proved Judicial Misbehaviour” by claiming power to grant judges immunity, NO LAW of the COMMONWEALTH creates and is claimed in Contempt of the judicial Oath or Affirmation of Office, the Laws of the Court applicable and the Constitution. Yes I have a copy of the Transcript.
Why do you think no judicial Instrument of our Courts will hear a Writ application citing a judicial instrument who has committed “Misbehaviour” for a Writ to be made?
Because that would produce “Proved Misbehaviour” pursuant to a condition of judicial tenure, thereby defeat the judicial Instruments of our Federal Courts: “must not be removed from office, except by the Governor-General, on an address from both Houses of Parliament . . . praying for his or her removal on the grounds of proved misbehaviour or incapacity”.
Lets all pray to Parliament the Governor-General of Australia (the Queen) be requested to inquire into the wrongful behaviour of the Chief Federal Magistrate John H. Pascoe and the overturning of the Orders of Federal Magistrate Joseph Harman.
I admit it sounds like the children were not reintroduced to the father in an appropriate manor hence the mother’s probable threats of you see your father and you never see me again were not overcome first.
This is just like the threats and behaviour of my ex to our son hence he does not seen her and now lives with me.
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Always great to read how we all feel and over again we say the same things in different ways >>> OUR CHILDREN ?
As hard as it is we stand slowly but surly we shall stand together as more fathers become desperate enough to join together for one reason of EQUALITY >> OUR CHILDREN.
Stand fast men back to back we are not alone just read your own post we say and talk the same language here with no fear. Together this shi# will be turned into something to grow with again. While we stand in shi# it stinks though tomorrow is a new day and untied we all say >>> OUR CHILDREN OUR CHILDREN
Bradley McKell
TRUTH HURTS
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I have been going through this same crap for the last 7 years and have not seen my daughter for the last 2, we have had many reports done and all in my favor, however, the court takes no notice of any report, they order the reports to be done, why do they not take notice of them way back when it starts?
This family court needs to take action in the first instance and punish those who contravine an order or participates in any parental alianation or other child abuse forms, if this does not work, take a harder stance.
@ John, yes those who are married for 20-30+ years know best in a married relationship, but would drop the bundle if thrown into a situation like mine which is quite simmilar to that above.
Mick
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Australia has been a steadfast friend of the USA, many times beyond what was reasonable. In what really matters this has been truly valuable to us both, and to peoples of the world. I am sorry to see in this instance, Australia take extreme bigoted feminism as somehow indicative of American feminism or American values. I apologize that we here, have not yet overthrown this policy dictatorship which demands sacrifice of children and future to wicked ideology.
While working lockstep has helped us before, this is not that time. Now both countries must focus on the future as threatened by ingrown gender bigotry as opposed to the continuity that has built the nations themselves.
We fought Hitler, we fought Stalin, but never before have we seen such a call to sacrifice children. Marginalizing religions, or intellectuals is nothing compared to crippling the future itself.
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Sorry one more thing, no lawyers or judges, but the obvious, the best people to be able to make judgements are contented happy people who have had successful marriages for over twenty thirty years, If they don’t know what makes a family or marriage work who does, like the jury system, and if anyone wanted to get real about it judges and lawyers just stir the pot for their own importance and the dollar that these kids and parents are going to need every cent of for their already rocky futures.
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Why were the children in the caring court, They are supposed to be in a care centre in the court building with caring balanced carers, where the parent who is to take them home, is to pick them up, that way any parental hype on the day of decision doesn’t get to the children. Anyway like Ive always said, one hour on film with the mother and children, and one hour on film with the father and the children. Set some tasks that would test their relationship and each parents coping skills, look at the film,then an hour with each parent to talk, make a decision.next case.see ya later.
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November 30th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Oh John – how lovely the view from your shoes!!
There is just one small flaw to your proposal -
Psychopathic mothers are the ones that behave like this -they relish hysterical theatrics. TRUTH and acting in their own children’s Best Interest has a completely different meaning to them.
Without a blink of the eye they will gleefully manipulate, twist and pervert the truth in complete disregard for the repercussions of their actions upon their own children -it’s all about getting the most attention directed towards Me Me Me/ And if the children can also be whipped up into a state of hysterical terror – so much the better – it makes their false claims so much more believable
Conscience –Regret -Remorse – Nah! You got to be kidding. Everything that follows in the child’s behavior later on in life can now be blamed on –HIM –its perfect. Drug abuse, self harm, obnoxious behavior, disregard for society’s values, violence, and theft – you name it – nothing the poor poor Mummy could have done.
Any way who gives a rats? Us good standing members of the general public are what’s needed to become involved and make this work – we are “the best people to be able to make judgments are contented happy people who have had successful marriages for over twenty thirty years, If they don’t know what makes a family or marriage work who does”
Anyway got to rush now – much more important news to focus on ‘Gay Marriages’
Ever heard of Hostile Parental Alenation ?
Na didnt think so
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john Reply:
November 30th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
I agree with you mate, 100%. I just think that people aren’t generally really bad in their hearts,but that doesn’t mean they cant be Bad, a thief is a thief, a conscience is a conscience, we’ve all got one, you either listen to it or it eats you up, I can really only feal sorry for those that don’t listen to it, because they are going to be sick, And yes your right, good upstanding people are the right people, but in their(the courts) eyes we more than likely aren’t, its not our eyes making the judgement though, its theirs, and theirs cant deny a 20 30 year marriage must have taken a lot of real care,wisdom, forgiveness, love, give and take to make it work, As much as it is hard to forgive its only in forgiving that we can get over things, and we do need to do that at some point, and our judgement is what will be our judge come judgement day, I know as much as the next bloke when thats ongoing its virtually impossible, man im as angry as anyone about what happened but im telling you that anger from the family court was unbearable but the anger Ive got now, from mental health and psychiatry who pick up the damage from the family court is tenfold to what i felt back then, well at least twice or thrice as bad, and because thats still ongoing i don’t feel i can ever forgive them, it has also re lit some of the anger Ive had for the family court for the last eighteen years not twenty as i thought it was, but Ive learnt we are all products of our time, just like the teachers were back in the sixties and seventies that used to use big leather straps to belt misbehaving children with were products of their time, society will evolve, in time, every time has tyrants who treat people wrongly, its just bad luck we are a generation of this time and what this time is, I also know that no matter what, the theft and hostility the court creates just kills the kids , and tapping into it and living and breathing it outwardly, hurts the kids we love so much, its so hard, now its about the sadness the kids feel about their mum who was always going to feel the guilt of what the court, the lawyers, the butch angry refuge people were encouraging her to do, thats the saddest part of what came from that, two broken weakened parents regardless of who or what steered who. and the effect that has on our kids. when we should and could have both been winners.
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So tears and coached hysteria continues to overrides the rule of law! (in the rare circumstances that federal magistrates actually apply the law) Would a man get away with alienating his wife from “her” children, we all know the answer to that.
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‘In a letter of a type rarely seen in Australia, Chief Federal Magistrate John H. Pascoe said he was “very deeply concerned” at the distress the mother suffered after her children were taken from her’
One letter you will NEVER see: ‘ Chief Federal Magistrate John H. Pascoe said he was “very deeply concerned” at the distress the father suffered after his children were taken from him.’
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A very disturbing account, with the article wrote by Carolyn Overington. Here is an Mp3 recording, of Carolyn, recounting her own experiences of parental divorce.
Unfortunately, the file accounts +2 for mothers, and suspect the worst case scenarios from fathers have been included, with the inclusion of ‘just a bitter’ mum.
Have a listen.
http://blogs.abc.net.au/files/caroline-overington-1.mp3
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This looks like an apology to help protect the judiciary rather than far the magistrates decision. One would need to see all the court evidence to help make a decision about the magistrates actions, unfortunately inside court houses seem to be a competition of lies and loopholes.
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