Placing Children in harms way: Labor’s Family Law Fiasco
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Most people by now would have heard the commonly-peddled Julia Gillard-Labor party claim that Australia’s current Child Custody family laws are in urgent need of amendment in order to protect vulnerable children from child abuse.
“Putting children’s safety first” is one of numerous newspaper headlines blindly towing this line, resulting in a growing perception that the existing 2006 Shared Parental Responsibility laws had openned the floodgates to rampant child abuse, in the guise of Shared Parenting arrangements.
According to one prominent Green, child abuse is “gendered”, and presumably as a result children should be denied contact with men, especially separated fathers, as a matter of policy. The fact that these same Greens support Gay (male) adoption makes one wonder how a political party that wants to be taken seriously can bring itself to support two completely incompatible policies when it comes to the safety of children.
The federal Attorney General, Robert McClelland, has himself been relentless in his portrayal of the 2006 Shared Parenting amendments as being detrimental to women, and he has vowed to change these laws in order to protect “women and children” from fathers.
Strangely, McClelland has vowed to do this by removing the penalties for false allegations and perjury in the Family Court, and by effectively dismantling measures designed to encourage co-operation between divorcing parents.
According to McClelland’s plan, children’s safety can only be guaranteed by re-implementing a winner-takes-all legal battle between separating parents, where allegations are rampant and hundreds of thousands of dollars are wasted in legal bills.
The goal of child custody determinations as McClelland presumably sees it is to assasinate the character of the other parent, with no checks or balances required to verify the allegations.
One can only surmise that the ultimate goal of the Labor party is to re-eastablish sole-maternal custody as the exclusive and fixed outcome in all child custody disputes, regardless of the quality of the parents involved, or the needs of the children themselves.
Amongst the groups of lawyers, single mother advocates, judges and other self-interest lobbyists who are bitterly opposed to any form of Shared Parenting, the consistent message from all has been that Shared Parenting is bad for single mothers, and as an extension it should be considered a safety risk for children.
Interestingly, facts and statistics on actual cases of children being abused while in Court-mandated Shared Parenting arrangements has been thin on the ground, in fact they have been practically non-existent. This absense of proof has however not dettered these vocal lobbyists, filling this conspicuous void with a littany of innuendo, opinion pieces and gender stereotypes, that does very little to support their case.
Amongst all this rhetoric however there has been a notable silence on the universally accepted and well established social crime statistics on child abuse, which raise critical questions about the wisdom of forcing children back into sole-mother custody arrangements.
Given that child abuse is well recognised as being most likely to occur in sole-mother households, where up to 80% of all child abuse occurs at the hands of the biological mother and/or live-in boyfriend (not related to the child), one has to question why these critics are demanding that children be placed in what is statistically the hotbed of all familial child abuse in Australia.
Adding further questions to the motivation behind these proposed changes has been the attempt to re-write the legal definition of “family violence”, to include behaviour where abuse has not occurred, is never likely to occur, and is non-abusive by any other reasonable measure.
According to the testimony of several experts to the Senate Committee into this bill, it was claimed that this new definition is so broad that it would capture benign day-to-day activities that all people engage in. In fact, one disgruntled Labor backbencher claimed that even “blinking” can be determined to be family violence according to this new bill.
Even more alarming, the Labor government has also reduced the standard of proof required to prove an allegation of family violence in Court, Â to a subjective level.
In fact, allegations will no longer need to be “reasonable” to be accepted as abuse, they simply have to be claimed to be believed.
The impact of this change alone cannot be stressed enough. It means that loopy, bizarre and irrational claims of abuse will be given the same weighting in Court as genuine claims of abuse.
This very troubling dumbing-down of the standard of proof within the Court process will only encourage parents to try and out-do themselves by making the most outlandish allegations of abuse possible, knowing full well that false allegations cannot be penalised.
So it will become a race to the bottom by vulnerable parents who are in the most stressful state of their lives, and most likely to make significant errors of judgment.
And as is well documented in the field of psychology, especially as it relates to Family Law proceedings, parents with personality disorders, persecution complexes and other paranoid and mental health conditions, will have the most potent claims of abuse to make, relying primarily on their disconnected views of the world.
It is parents like these that the Labor Party’s new Family Violence Bill will enable the most, by providing them a venue for all their psychological turmoil, with no requirement to refer to fact or reason by the adjudicator.
And despite the media hype of putting children’s safety first, the most significant outcome of this bill, if it becomes law, will very likely be to reward the parent who makes the most dramatic but unreliable allegations of abuse in Court, and providing this parent with sole custody, often resulting in the ongoing non-transparent care of vulnerable minors.
And the worst thing of all is that this bill will as a result push many cases of child abuse under the carpet and behind closed doors, in the care of people with a history of mental health issues, and the only available safeguard, being the other parent, will have no say, no input and no transparency into the care of their children, until it becomes too late.
Amanda Kelly: Child Protection volunteer
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You’re right again Paw. Universities don’t pay must attention to teaching honour to their students…they would probably hope that their graduates and under-grads already had that grounding from their parents and former schools. Hence the ‘few’ rotten apples getting through to university.
I wrote to my ex’s Bioethics Masters supervisor informing him about what his former student had been up to. My ex has since dropped her Masters title from her business card…partly because she did it under her married name and partly because the title of her thesis included, “Justice as fairness” and she also had written an acknowledgement attached to her thesis that I was a great believer in justice. She was dead right there!
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Check out anti-socialist family law comments by STD – Sexually Transmitted Debt on Catallaxy
http://catallaxyfiles.com/2011/09/11/the-carlton-list/comment-page-1/#comment-287441
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Just wow.
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/angry-men-have-never-met-a-thug-who-wasnt-innocent/
I’m speechless.
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Paw Reply:
September 11th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Don’t worry Old Tom, let’s just wait and see how many of the drop kicks on that site who made derrogatory remarks against fathers, end up crying like babies or threatening to commit suicide, when their wives/partners ditch them, kidnap their kids and use the law to do them over.
Because if stats are to be believed, then almost 50% of them are going to find out at some point soon, that they have been talking a whole lot of crap.
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Howard Beale Reply:
September 11th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Thanks for the tip “Old Tom’.
It is important that we be aware of these media hypes in particular with the Senate voting on the family violence bill within weeks. I responded to Flood and his puppets over there. Punch is influential.
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Have a look at this shit:
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/mum-haunted-by-darkest-cloud/story-e6freoof-1226133843629
Mother flips out and murders her daughter and yet we have an article solely dedicated to how lovely the mother was?
No need to comment on what happens when a father loses their mind and murders a child. We’ve seen the result and tens of thousands of fathers will now suffer because of this.
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Paw Reply:
September 10th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
You can’t expect anything different nowadays. This is the way it is.
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zac Reply:
September 11th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
It’s astounding that this reporter would put a compassionate (to the murderer) spin after the death of a healthy and talented 14 year old girl. wtf
NOTHING AT ALL about the (probably horrible) way that this child was killed…by the ‘clouded’ mother. If the father was the murderer then this would have been written completely differently. Media Watch needs to step up a gear.
Interestingly to, after all the psychiatric intervention (to make sure that the mother was taking her medication), this reporter suggests that the son (age unknown) may hold the key as to what psychological state his mother was in when she jumped off the bridge. HE IS JUST A KID, now scarred for life.
And what is it about Occupational Therapists? My ex is one, with a Masters to boot, who was the sole cause of our 10 yo daughter self harming five years ago. My ex-wife’s ‘secret’ psychiatrist refused to make contact with my daughter’s G.P. (and visa versa)after I filled them (both male) in with all the details that drove my child to such desperate despair at the criminal torment of her mother.
One of my friends, a PhD, suggested that the only way that a father’s questions would be answered was if there was a coronial situation. Well this is not good enough.
Why is it that child protection bodies in our society still allow sick mothers to mess with their children’s heads?
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Paw Reply:
September 11th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
“Why is it that child protection bodies in our society still allow sick mothers to mess with their children’s heads?”
Zac, they (child protection authorities) have been infected and infested by nasty radical man hating feminists, who will lie and commit perjury to make sure they not only protect the mother and give her what she wants, but to also cover their own miserable arses. And although they are mostly female in these agencies, there are some men in there too.
As for the so-called university educated professionals who commit these abuses.
We need to remember that universities are most of all houses of indoctrination. You only learn enough to gain a document that states you now have the authority or right, to start learning.
The problem with these places is they also pump out arrogant people who believe they are better than others. Even many so-called normal people can be affected by the indoctrination.
But mostly those who come out the other end rotten, went in rotten to start with.
The most intelligent man I ever knew, was handicapped and considered intellectually slow. This guy was so damn smart, logical, practical and intelligent, he could embarrass a Rhodes Schollar. Yet he had little formal education.
A university education has very little to do with intelligence. It is only an indication of academic ability, nothing more!
So, let’s not pay university educated people too much homage, because in most cases it is underserved, especially if they are abusing other human beings. This proves their lack of intelligence.
I agree with your comments on that murder/suicide too. This woman murdered her daughter using an Axe. So, just imagine the terror and agony this poor defenseless 14 year old girl went through while watching her mother smashing this axe into her, prior to becoming unconscious. It’s too sickening to even contemplate!
If it were a man, it would have been plastered across the media in every western nation on earth and he would have been called a murderous dog who should rot in hell.
When it’s a woman, there’s nothing but silence on the national and world media stage!
Luke's Army Reply:
September 14th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Exactly right, poor woman once again. If it was a man he would be the most hated man in the world.
Paw, I hear your feelings of overwhelmed disempowerment. They are real and so are the feelings of isolation and powerlessness that ensue.
There is a wonderful and sickening experiment that a psychologist named Seligman performed on dogs decades ago. He would put them into a box divided into two parts, separated by a low wall. At first the dogs would be put into one half of the box, onto a metal plate.This would then be electrified and the dogs naturally would jump over the low wall into the “safe”, unelectrified half of the box. Obviously, healthy animals flee to safety when they are under attack.
Next, the experimenter prevented escape and randomly charged the floor under the dog’s paws. They could not escape and they could not predict the attack. He continued this until they were “conditioned” to expect unpredictable assault with no possibility of escape. Then he removed the barrier that prevented escape. What do you think happened?
That’s right. Now able to escape the dogs just stood there, terrified of the next unpredictable assault. Seligman called this response, Learned Helplessness. Able to act, the animals are now incapable of acting in their own or their children’s best interests.
Since then Seligman has re-visited his original work and decided to rename the phenomenon, Learned Hopelessness. Abandon hope all ye who enter fatherhood!
My point is mind set. If you look at what often seems the bizarre unpredictability of judicial decision making throughout the commonwealth you’ll often hear expressions of hopeless disbelief at the decision making process. I’m sure you have the same stories in oz. You know the ones where the drunk or kid or mother kills someone and then is given an “inexplicably” light sentence. Understanding the process seems hopeless and best left to those who know better. Not.
And you know the situation is even worse when it comes to the states inducements to break up the very idea of the family. The decision making is so flawed it is obviously illegal and for the profit of the law societies.
I enjoy that stat in an earlier post that says, since 2006 law society profits have fallen 22% following the imposition of your revised family law act. Do you think that even Howard’s party is under a lot of pressure to quiet opposition to the latest assault on families?
Is it possible that a conspiracy, engineered by law societies in collusion with the judiciary’s employer, the legislature, proposed a very cunning plan? Could they be “conditioning” society for learned hopelessnes? You know there are at least a couple of vicious, dishonest and anti-democratic ideologies that would benefit, if not outright profit from such a conceivable social circumstance?
Here, in Canada we know that law societies were frustrated by the outrageous battles over property and convened semi-secretly with other law society members to impose a 50/50 rule on the division of property. This didn’t come from legislatures, even if it was tacitly accepted. The feelings of frustration arose over the division of children and I believe was handled in the same semi-secret manner. Of course you know that the outcome of that was not 50/50 when it very reasonably could have been, even then, which was not so very long ago. Could profit have been a motive?
So, back to mind set in peak performance. Usain Bolt is currently the fastest man alive. Do you think he got that way by thinking, focusing and concentrating on every little thing the previous fastest man alive ever did?
You have to concentrate on your performance, on what you can do. And if you realize that you can’t do it alone, please don’t waste your time talking, at this early stage, with those who don’t understand the situation or worse don’t agree with you. Actually, meet with other like minded men/fathers over coffee, not beer, you’ve got work to do. Learn about mindset. Learn about peak performance. Learn about organizing. We have to do it, because we see the problem.
Here’s how I know this works. Some few people in a nearby province recognized a problem with politics at the federal level. They started meetings in coffee shops and churches. Today, just a couple of decades later, one of their own is currently the Prime Minister of the entire country, albeit under a new name. Can’t say much, however, that is positive about their policy stance on the family, though they talk a good, superficial line in private.
That’s why I suggest going after democracy rather than parties. Create a very big tent that is ultimately in everyone’s interest. I support Swiss direct democracy through set referendum dates which puts authority over sovereignty in the hands of the electorate. I’d love to see feminazis, like Gillard or Mclelland try to sell the population generally on their bullshit issue. If they couldn’t hide behind the camoflage of social democracy the issue of stealing children would be a non-starter. However, I am also distrustful of conservatives because a lot of men have died on their watches too. A lot of children have been irreparably harmed under conservative “family friendly” governments. So, I say trust no party. God knows what your Equal Parenting party would do to the country as a whole if they got power.
Anyway, I wonder if the fault is individual people or special interest groups. They couldn’t get away with it if the system weren’t buggered to begin with. So, I say go for the whole enchilada, create a very big tent. Start in your local constituency by meeting like minded people. I keep hearing the notion that all women…but lots of sisters and mothers suffer the loss of their nieces, nephews and grandchildren. We do have common cause with our own larger family members who have also been hurt by this disgusting system.
They might see sovereignty as a means of dealing with a whole host of apparently unresolvable, decades dragged out issues that political parties seem incapable of identifying, let alone dealing with. The Westminster party system is the problem. Magna Carta and few other good pieces of historical record were meant to resolve the issue of being a sovereign monarch’s slaves. Unfortunately, sovereignty now belongs to the monarch’s bureaucrats and they owe allegiance to no one. They have demonstrated that they are irresponsible and dishonest managers of our sovereignty. So, it is now our historical duty and challenge to take control of sovereignty. It works very well for the Swiss. And it is really just the evolution of Magna Carta. Let the people vote on the issue and instruct the bureaucrats on how they will act.
You begin at home. A good tactic is to come up with a good, inclusive petition question like, “Do you support your government’s and political party’s policy of stealing children from their fathers, then taxing them to death as replacement for welfare?
Go outside, collect names, signatures and contact info and voila, you now have a crucial nucleus for political activism. I hope that’s not a dirty phrase to you. Physically meet with like minded people. Plan a goal. Plan tactics. Plan strategy. Plan timeline.
Sheesh! I guess as soon as I get my drivers license returned and deal with the coming smackdown for being in arrears I must get out there myself or be accused of just breaking wind.
I want to thank you for helping me get out some ideas in however poorly organized a manner. I hope they’re valid. I seem to want a big picture goal that creates the possibility of real communication with people, who when persuaded of an idea will vote the change in the way bureaucrats do business.
Think of all the issues that could be dealt with in the first year of four binding referendums: a truth and reconciliation commission to get to the bottom of how our democracy was hijacked, judicial firings for cause, law society reparations, money returned from women who profited by stealing children-jail time if you think you could get support- overhauling reform of private media(shouldn’t it be treated like water or air, with “pollution” being illegal, presumptive 50/50 time with children, welfare if required being the responsibility of the government….The list goes on and on and the Swiss have only used it 357 times in 150 years. Do you think that maybe their bureaucrats have been trained to work for the best interests of the people as whole, rather than incessant special interest groups as encouraged by the divide and conquer Westminster system? One small change in who owns sovereignty can lead to great transformation in how we live together.
cheers,
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Paw Reply:
September 10th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Gary,
Thanks for all the work you put into that reply.
Here in Aus we are about 10 years behind you lot in North America and still have more of the slippery slide to go down. You lot are already at the bottom working out ways to get back up and you have some small pockets of support from women (well they do in the US), to help with the battle.
We will have to keep plugging away the way we are for some time to come, because the powerful ‘one world group’ who are all about a one world govt, are the ones behind this evil that has beset the world, and they are not going to give up until they have society in all western nations destroyed.
Not sure who it was, but I think it was Lenin, who said that if you destroy the family, you destroy society, then you have control.
Something along those lines.
They are not finished with destroying the family yet.
First they have given women complete authority and power over men in all areas of society and in law, both family and criminal law.
There is a huge number of young men who are now fearful of marriage, because they know that over 50% of them will have their lives destroyed by a greedy vicious ex wife and they will lose their kids in the process. So, while some of them don’t marry, most will still give it a shot in the hope that they are in the better half that remains together.
Next, we see the introduction of homos (male/female) being able to ‘get married’ which further waters down the meaning and efficacy of marriage.
Then we have homos being able to adopt children into their debaucherous union, which will then further devalue the concept of ‘family’.
Once these are all fully in play, we are only one step away from societal annihilation.
Look at the UK recently. The only reason so many kids were able to wreak havoc like they did, is because they come from fatherless homes. The mothers simply cannot control the children. This is the same in every western nation. The greatest amount of child abuse, around 80% is in single mother homes, and the greatest number of criminals of all ages come from single mother homes.
It won’t take much for a very effective manipulator to whip these wayward youth into a frenzy and get them to rebel against the authorities thus bringing about terrible suffering for everyone.
And just remember, these same youth can muster several hundred in number in just a couple of hours, just to gate crash a party.
How effective would they be as a fighting force in urban warfare!!
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I was able to post a comment on the Andrew Bolt blog under topic “Bad law, and worse motives”
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/bad_law_and_worse_motives/P0/
10 Sep 11 (01:50am) “Govt prepared to trash our freedoms just to cling to powerâ€
” The family law (family violence) bill is more sinister legislation. The “Hate Men†law takes “he said†out of “he said/she said†and removes all penalties for lying.
Litigated divorce (profit) dropped 22% after the shared parenting reform of 2006. The Govt says – in contradiction to 2000+ published peer reviewed research studies – that shared parenting puts children at risk because women are afraid to make allegations.
Therefore it proposes to redefine family violence to be whatever the accuser says it is, repeal the presumption of innocence for fathers and remove all penalties for false allegations and sells this as protecting children.
Of course it has nothing to do with the far left needing divorce for votes and power – 70% of unmarried/divorced women vote for the welfare protection & social justice of the Big Brother party.
Decimating the conservative voting powerbase of middle class family and redistributing that patriachal wealth [power] to victim women with guaranteed election support and contributions from a grateful multi-billion dollar family law-domestic violence industry, paid to cry “family violence†wolf, is good socialist policy – a legal scam of global warming proportion.”
Please go there and comment to get this family law travesty into public awareness
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Howard Beale Reply:
September 10th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Thanks Bruce and 80% of reported child abuse occurs in sole maternal custody homes which will unavoidably increase by this Bill. Clearly the FV bill is about protecting children like the Carbon tax is about reducing global warming.
At what is the cost to the taxpayer of this feminist pork for the election of the first female PM?
Circa $14B/yr for massive increases in welfare, already #5 in GDP, the mass criminalisation and incarceration of men and 40% of children fatherless – and dealing with all the social pathologies directly associated – youth delinquency, addictions, mental health, unemployment, teen pregnacy, which in turn creates a self-perpetuating generational cycle of family dysfunction and abuse – and profit.
The FV bill puts half the nation’s wealth into the hands of a few unelected family court judges handing out 100K commissions to brethen lawyers to allege family violence. That 85% of Australian men are already found to be unfit to share in the parenting of their own children exposes this scam under guise of protecting children.
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God! You guys are wearing me out.
It’s not about women, or any ideology. Follow the money. Is Gillard or Mclellan a lawyer? If not maybe they have good relationships with lawyers.
Your legislature has transferred state responsibility for welfare to private individuals. It is a wholly illegal ploy. It saves the legislature a fortune in treasure. And all the legislators profit from this transfer, personally. Good wages, outrageous pensions. Don’t kid yourself, by silence or active participation they all profit at the expense of fathers.
The judiciary profits, too. Most working people have not seen a real increase in the value of their wages and salaries since the ’70′s. Judges pay, from their employer, the legislature, is far greater then the cost of living. A pittance in silver to betray their country and the law, I know. But they also owe a much more active allegiance to their brother society members.
So, don’t be too hard on the women who take this road. Yes, they are guilty of participating in this game of stealing children and deserve jail time for their role.
But remember, what would you do if someone offered you $100,000+ over 20 odd years, with property to boot. A get of jail free card, a safe house while you establish possession, a police force that will beat your ex and all the support from society’s most respected members. What wouldn’t you do?
This is the issue. Knowing that a sort of administrative coup d’etat has taken over your country and laws, knowing that a coup d’etat is de facto an act of war, is whingeing about Hitler’s character or speech impediment or mental health really an appropriate response?
It’s not. You are men. You are fathers. Your country needs you.
In my opinion the best thing to do is to organize, as if for war.
Identify the coup d’etat as the act of war which has stolen your country. Examine it with gratitude for showing us how weak and in peril our form of democracy always has been.
Organize to re-take your country, peacefully.
You know that the vast majority of Australians do not support this assault on families and that Gillard’s law would never survive a referendum.
The Swiss do referendums four times a year on set dates. This has the overwhelmingly salutary effect of making legislators there very conscious of who might be watching over their shoulders. It also gives you an opportunity to voice an opinion contrary to the party you support, without having to switch parties during the one time you get a say in politics, every four or five years.
Think of it as the evolution of the Magna Carta, which sort of got missed everywhere in the Commonwealth. Sovereignty ought to be in the hands of the electorate. Law societies, legislators and judges be damned! It’s our country we have final say on legislation and the behaviour of the judiciary.That is what sovereignty means and having over played their hand, the law societies, judges and legislators have shown us that they have never deserved their primary place in managing sovereignty.It’s past time we took it back, for everyone and the good of our country. Good Luck.
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Paw Reply:
September 8th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Well Gary, as much as I agree pretty much with what you say, please tell us how do you plan on taking back “Our Country”?
And I’m not being facetious either!
It’s all well and good to say what you have said, but you might be missing a few little problems or hurdles to achieving your suggested action that men should take.
We are a completely ‘divided society’, which is due to a failed multicultural experiment. We have been divided by gender, thanks to the introduction of radical feminism.
And we have the not too small an issue of the fact that women have legal power and control over men (and children) throughout all society here in Australia, both in family law AND criminal law. And that’s not a whinge from me, it’s an actual fact.
So, if we can’t muster support from the men of all nationalities; can’t get the women to support the fight against this regime that is supplying them with so many wonderful benefits; but worst of all, we can’t get enough men together because there is a total ‘forced’ media blackout on anything to do with fathers rights, then we are not going to see much happen.
That is unless you have a plan??
Oh and by the way. In answer to your question. I have been screwed over twice by two wives, who have been given pretty much what they wanted. I have seen these women now and I have seen my children now.
Although I know I would not have done this even with the first marriage break up, but after seeing these women turn into overweight constantly ill, ugly looking individuals who are obviously eaten up by guilt and stress, plus see my children suffer grevously all the same time, there is no way I would ever contemplate kidnapping my children and alienating them, or stealing the family home and 20 years income.
Why?
Because it is just so wrong on so many levels, I am blown away at the fact that women (the ones’ who do the bad stuff) cannot see what lies instal for them when they drink from that poison chalice.
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gary kennedy Reply:
September 9th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Thank you for your well intentioned reply.
I asked the question about what we wouldn’t do for the money,property and protection because I want to start thinking about the advertisement of the same by government as an inducement by government. You know that when you marry a woman she can at any time go to a website and discover how much of your income she will receive in monthly instalments. Rather than deal with a marriage, I believe the government is inducing her to leave by the promise money, property and protection.
Here, in Canada in the province of Ontario, just one province, it is said that the total amount of money paid in child support approaches one billion dollars.
After no fault divorce was introduced without debate through the trickery of an omnibus bill, the number of single mothers on welfare more than doubled. You see the problem of unintended consequences for sleepy legislators? Not only does that represent a huge drain on the treasuries, it also would be a difficult sell come election time. Imagine having to justify letting women much more easily walk out of marriages so that the state has to look after them through a doubling, if not greater increase of welfare costs given the overwhelming trend.
What the law societies engineered was a transfer of state responsibility for welfare onto private individuals,ie, fathers.Remember the most direct profiteers from the destruction of our families are the law societies. I believe that is illegal. The fact that this decision is gendered makes it illegal again.
But what should be most disturbing is that such a transfer saves the treasury so much money. What do legislators do with some of the saved money? They pay themselves very well. And they give themselves golden pensions. Every political party supports this system of child theft as an excuse for money theft. It is illegal.
It is a coup and a very profitable one. Every member and want to be member of the legislature, judiciary and law society is a criminal who deserves punishment by jail or at the very least reparations.
And don’t doubt for a moment that this hasn’t been done before. In a way I almost believe that some very powerful shaman has cursed us for what we allowed to be done to our native populations.
Their stolen lives are now our stolen lives.
So, the first part of a plan is to agree on the appropriate response to an act of war. Thinking in such terms must focus our minds and attention. Next, is what has been done illegal or not? Think of the Nazis and their legal quest for standing in the Bundestag. They even passed law that allowed them to legally take over the Bundestag and democratic process. And if you know anything about the final solution, you know the Nazis were very careful in establishing the “legality” of it. Oh, it wasn’t legal?
That’s because bad law, like ones that single out individuals on the basis of gender are discriminatory, hence illegally contravening fundamental law.
That judges can impose a tax on individuals on the basis of gender just because a legislature has suggested guidelines for doing so is not legal. Judges have never anywhere in the commonwealth ever had the authority to impose tax. Talk about without representation!
It’s a work in progress, but you can see the attempt at a prima facie case that establishes a kind of rallying creed that fathers especially can rally round. Of course, it needs a lot of work.
I hope that I have demonstrated an idea that reframes our psychological attitude to the criminality of legislatures and their friends.
Now put it on a back burner and think of political activity. The status quo is very broken, throughout the commonwealth. That any group could so completely take over a political system without any debate should be ample demonstration of this.
The next focus point is that we cannot trust any political party. They’ve all shared in this, and Howard not withstanding, (he didn’t do much at all really if it can be so easily swept away by the next Jill come lately) none of them deserve and none who aspire to serve, have demonstrated a capacity to manage sovereignty fairly or well.
Sovereignty is the responsibility of the electorate and deserves to be in our hands. You have to decide first whether or not you want to continue leaving sovereignty to the legislature and judiciary. In 2000 the Swiss modernized their constitution and were adamant that the people would continue to control the legislature and judiciary. How I wish we had that authority.
But we don’t and if you think the past 30 odd years have been working for fathers or that there is a good possibility that things will improve for our sons and daughters, well then you’ll want to continue begging our abusers to be kind and fair to us. Not! They are rapists and profiting from their victims. They are hardly likely to give that up. The facts have made no impression on them over the last 20years and let’s be clear; them equals your neighbours who get elected, people just like you, some even having had their children stolen. Them are our children who go on to law school. All are brought to a system of abuse and rape and to be silent partners in it, unless they are a Gillard or Mclelland.
So, there is lots of stuff on the net about Switzerland, a not too shabby conservative country. And their is stuff on the net, not so much in private media, about how Iceland is not accepting austerity to pay for money that never existed. How they are putting the Prime Minister and the bankers on trial. About how they were broke like Greece and Ireland, rejected the IMF and are now back in the black after three years. Greece’s legislators are selling the beaches.
So, what to do? Here, we have a local provincial political party that seeks to give our province a constitution that vests authority for sovereignty in the hands of the electorate through set quarterly referendum dates that allow the people to reject or initiate legislation by simple majority.
I suggest organizing by state through local ridings. Advertise in the local paper for meetings on the subject of a new party. Become an organizer. Time will tell. But in Australia as here the vast majority of people support fathers and children’s need to be in our lives. That can be translated into political change.
I know this is all sort of hodge podge, but I’ve only had a few years of this and doing everything I can to stay in my children’s lives only to find that I really cannot keep up support payments, that they really do freeze your drivers license and that the possiblility of losing my children, who are great kids, is very real. I’m terrified. I’m angry. And I’m going to get even by taking everything from those creeps that gave them so much power to corrupt a democracy my uncle, just a kid really, died for in the first Canadian ship to be sunk in 1940. He thought it worth believing that he died for something good. They have taken that from him and us. And they take it from our children too. They have to be stopped.
I just think that taking control of sovereignty is the best way to do it. It will never impose solutions but will always give us the ability to propose solutions to problems and instruct our legislators and judiciary to work it out.
That’s all I can think of for now. Thanks for your attention and I hope the disorganized mess hasn’t been too much of trial or waste of your time. cheers,
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joe Reply:
September 9th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Elequently written Gary, and yes these values are well worth fighting for and the arguements are not a waste of time. We are all still role-modelling for our kids and setting the rules for the future.
Like many Australians, I lost a (Great) uncle at Gallipoli. He was Lance Corporal William Menadue of 7th Battalion A.I.F. He was in the first bunch of volunteers from my town and I pass the cenotaph where his name is enscribed every day. He didn’t die so that his brother’s decendants had to suffer foolish legislators and corrupt officials inventing ways stripping assets and demolishing families all in the name of business.
Keep the debate, arguement and fight going..Lest we forget how to stand up for ourselves and our children.
Paw Reply:
September 9th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Gary,
All of what you have written is so true and it is something most of us in the Fathers Movement have known about for years, but simply can’t do anything about.
We have a political party here in Aus. Actually, we have a couple that I know of that are fighting for the rights of parents and children, and to have the evil of the family and criminal courts removed from the system, so that these authorities can operate in a fair and equitable manner.
But as I said before; it is impossible for even these parties to get the word out to all the men out there in society to mobilise them for anything to do with family, children or fathers or even to regain sovereignty out of the hands of the criminals.
The govt has complete control over the media, which includes local community newspapers. Most (maybe all?) of the local wrags are owned by the big newspapers, so you have no chance of getting any story in.
Also, all these political parties and family/father groups, have zero dollars to spend. Whereas the womens/mothers groups, the anti-father hate groups, the feminist run women’s refuges, all have a multi-billion dollar budget worldwide and they have so much political power and clout, that any politician who scratches his Piles without their express permission, is going to be out of a job and lose all his covetted pension.
Our problem here in Aus is, these forces had been into your countries before they came here. By the time they got to manipulating the Aus govt and community, they had learnt how to be exceedingly effective at it. And so they were!
They have it lock up in stone so tight, that it will take generations to change it, or it will take a civil war.
And the only way any civil war will EVER happen in Aus, is if there is a huge number of women involved. Why?’
Because the women can get things published or simply use their networking avenues that have existed in the past to be used against men. These are avenues that men do not have, otherwise we would be using them already.
Yes Ash, I concede that my first sentence will definitely be taken the wrong way by those who hate men and used against me. And I guess I was an idiot for putting it there. But, I would still write it again.
I only make that statement from experience with women (in general), who mostly believe that men naturally are inherently evil and women naturally are inherently good and innocent. And this is a factual generalisation Ash.
Most women in society believe the above. If they didn’t, then we would not be having the problems we have.
We could argue the toss with this all day, but like you, I am more interested in having a stoush with gutless, spineless males (and their feminist charges) who gave and still give the nasty femmos in govt and NGOs the power to destroy the lives of innocent people.
I am no woman hater Ash, but just remember, there are some generalisations that have a lot of truth in them.
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My older daughter, aged only 10, selfharmed SOLELY because she knew that her mother knowingly lied in her first affidavit (saying that I had groped my daughter) and then prevented our daughter staying overnight at my home against our daughter’s wish….It wouldn’t serve my ex-wife’s ‘story’ that our daughter wanted to be with her, allegedly, ‘abusive’ daddy.
When my daughter rang me to ask me to ‘rescue’ her from her mother(‘s bad influence and shockingly poor role modelling) my estranged wife took the phone off my daughter and declared to me that her 3 day old affidavit,
“wasn’t meant to read that way, It’s not (describing) sexual abuse.”
These comments were overheard on speakerphone by a J.P., a PhD and a school principal who all were guests at my house…My ex-wife still works as an Allied Health professional and ironically retains a Masters in Bioethics from Monash Uni.
My daughter was delivered to me for my weekend ‘supervised’ access with NO disclosure of her selfharming behaviour at her mother’s home. I was subsequently blamed for my daughter’s arm and leg gouging (which I did not witness) three days later when access was denied totally for the next three weeks.
My ex-wife then blatantly lied in her second affidavit about our daughter’s dialogue and distress surrounding her selfharm. NO child protection agency wanted to test the false claims made in either of the mother’s testimony. (She had made a living out of writing health industry ‘reports’ for over 25 years)
My ex-wife grew up as a single child in a fatherless home where her mother openly and constantly alienated her father, even during 14 years of our marraige. My father-in-law was a teenage WW2 soldier, a 3 year POW of Germany and a 36 year post-war policeman… and a top bloke.
I feel like I have also been to war to try to save my daughters from the injustice of parental alienation fascilitated by false testimony.
I feel like I am living (if this daytime nightmare is living) in A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY where i was persecuted simply for being a dad who loves his daughters unconditionally. I wont be giving up, but I do understand why some fathers do.
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Paw Reply:
September 8th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Oh and Zac, please remember to not be too hard on your ex wife, because the poor Poppit is probably suffering a psychological disorder and should be forgiven for all that she has done.
Yeah like hell!!
This woman is in full control and is behaving criminally, which is the same as the vast majority of the other women/mothers who do as your ex has done.
Mate, I feel for you. I really do!
I lost 2 kids 24 years ago and still have no relationship with them. I have pretty much now given up any hope of ever being reunited, but there is always some hope I guess.
These women are vicious and they are evil. They know the law backward and they take advantage of the fact that the law will allow them to commit any crime, which also includes murder, as long as they can lay the blame on a man.
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zac Reply:
September 8th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
She kept secret the fact that she was seeing a psychiatrist when we first met.. N.P.D would be a close fit for her..My older daughter has now swallowed a LOT of her mother’s poison.
Like the sterio-typical child abuse victim, my daughter has now been led away by her abuser with the promise of material items.
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a father Reply:
September 14th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
In third world countries the situation was better until the western oriented feminist activists got in.
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You have to wonder about the character of women in general today don’t you. You have to ask why is it that women will commit perjury, perpetrate kidnapping of their own children from the father and why they would lie to have the father of their children, whom they know is innocent, arrested on false charges of DV or child abuse and locked up, without any evidence.
You have to ask the question, “Are there any decent women left out there in this country who will go to the court and actually try to include the father or ask for shared care?”
It seems that the main reason why women go to the family court is to make sure they get what they want and they do it with cold calculating resolve.
The article above gives the impression that it is only psychologically disordered women who will take advantage of these new changes.
I find it an insult that they still try to claim that the ONLY women who will behave like this are those who are sick in the head. This is the sort of sick attitude that keeps these man hating laws going. Where men are always brutally dealt with by the law, but women are treated with sympathy, understanding and above all, a huge dose of leniency. Most of these women who front up to the court with criminal intent, are by no means psychologically damaged. These women are in full control and are fully aware of their actions.
We live in the age of psychology, where every single human behaviour is labelled with a psychologial illness. This is bullshit at the highest level.
They have hoodwinked society into believing there is no evil, only people with psychological disorders, and if you believe in ‘evil’ as I do, then you are not only believing in an outdated ‘old wives tale’, you are also uneducated and suffering a dillusional disorder.
My advice to all men/fathers out there is to EDUCATE YOUR CHILDREN FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE, OF THEIR RIGHTS UNDER THE LAWS OF GOD AND OF THIS COUNTRY.
The key is educating your children. I did, and my kids have always demanded that they have me in their lives. In fact, they prefer more time with me than they do with their mother, because they know they have the right to choose.
The family court will try to tie fathers up with court orders, banning them from speaking to the children about any matters in law. The courts and they slimy lawyers all know that if the kids knew the truth and were educated, they would leave their mothers and go live with the fathers. So they want the kids kept in the dark!!!
The mothers can say what the like and will be supported by the court, but the fathers will not.
Do what I did. Educate your children and if asked, tell the court you have been and will always continue to educate your children on their rights under the law and that they have the right to both parents and have the right to never be abused by ANYONE. The court didn’t like me saying this, but they didn’t do a damn thing, because the kids had spoken.
Educate your children fathers, and do it from a very young age while your family is still intact. And don’t ask your wifes permission either. Just do it in a way that you can let the kids know they should be able to go through the whole lives without being abused and that they should always be able to be loved and spend time with both their parents, and always demand this right.
Because once your loving wonderful wife decides one day out of hormonal nastiness to get rid of you, you will not get another chance to educate your kids, because it will be too late. If you have done the right thing, then the kids are going to kick up merry hell, until they have you back in their lives.
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Ash Patil Reply:
September 8th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Paw,
F4E believes that if the Family/DV laws were reversed, men would be acting the same way that you claim women are acting.
As such, it is the laws and the moraes of a society that are the issue, not the gender of the individuals.
To judge all women by the excesses of some is as misguided as judging all men by the prevailing sinister stereotypes.
And I believe you have also misunderstood the point of the above article.
It is not claiming that only ‘unbalanced’ women make false allegations. It is claiming that this law will also aid and abet those who provide the greatest psychological threat to their children.
So rather than protecting children from abuse, the family violence bill 2011, if it becomes law, will in fact actively expose children to abuse.
It seems to me that you have missed the point entirely.
I am leaving your post up in the interests of open discussion, but I ask you to please moderate your comments so there is no risk in them being misinterprested.
Thanks
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Paw Reply:
September 8th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Ash,
Where on earth did you get that I stated ‘ALL’ women do whatever??
Nowhere in any of my posts to this blogsite or any other fathers groups over the last 10 years, have I ever stated ‘ALL’ women.
Please highlight those statements and point them out to me!!
Please if you are going to criticise make sure you read my post carefully.
I have always acknwledged the good women out there who do the right thing and yes, there are many of them. However, when it comes to the family court, there are few who do not take advantage of what is on offer to them. Most women who go to the family court, will take advantage of whatever they can, to get the children, the house and the money.
If I am wrong in saying this, then please prove me wrong!!!
And if you reread my post, you will see these are the women I am referring to.
And as for me missing the point entirely with the above article. Well, I know I am stupid, but I am not that stupid.
I know exactly what this legislation is all about and I am not as far off the mark as you say I am.
I am simply not prepared to kowtow to the womens movements of this country or to keep quiet about the lies that are told by not only the courts, but also the womens movements.
Finally, I know it might be F4E’s belief that if the laws were reversed that men would do the same.
I’m sorry, I would have to disagree with that. There is no proof of what you say as being true.
Back in the dark days (post WWII) of the past when women were excluded after divorce from the lives of their children, yes there were some similarities in bad behaviour but it was nowhere near the extent to which women take things today.
One classic example is that in those dark days, post WWII when divorce occurred and the children remained with the father, the mothers were never locked up over false allegations of abuse, they never had to face being dragged around by a cop and treated like a criminal, all on the say so of the ex husband, then have their reputation ‘in law’ destroyed and forever known as a violent woman.
Not only that, there are no stats or even stories of a culture of parental alienation that was perpetrated by all the fathers who got automatic custody post separation, back in the dark days.
Where are all the stories of mothers never having access to their children again and losing them forever?????
Yes there would have been cases, but nowhere near the scale as taken by the women of today.
So no Ash, I disagree with you. Most of the bad behaviour we see in the family court today that is perpetrated by women, I am convinced is mostly gender specific to women and not men.
And please, don’t join the rest of the man hating gang out there who like to accuse me of being a woman hater, just because I have the balls to publicly point out their bad behaviour, and they don’t like what I have to say.
If you don’t believe me, then email me offlist and i will give you the email address of a person who happens to be a woman, who I have been involved with, in support groups for people who suffer parental alienation, and you can ask her if I am a hater of women.
I have spent nearly 10 years helping mostly women, but even this friend of mine, will tell you I have strong views and am definitely anti feminist. She will never lie to back me up, because she is a strong woman, but she will tell you I am compassionate to the agony of anyone who loses children.
I just will not keep quiet when I see evil, even if dressed up like a woman, perpetrating crimes against innocent children and men.
And yes, I have the same attitude toward men who abuse children and women.
Finally, you have every right to ban me from this blog.
Ash, I have never been disrespectful of anyone on this blog site. I have never been disrespectful of women, and nor have I attacked anyone either.
Yet, I have been attacked and vilified on this site by other blog posters, most of whom are probably women masquerading as men. But I have never seen you ask them to stop the personal attacks.
I know you have been emailed offlist by some of them to get me blocked. As I said, it is your right to do so, if you wish to quash all comments that the political correct crowd won’t like.
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Ash Patil Reply:
September 8th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Yes Paw, you are making generalisations about all women.
I am the first to criticise the feminist hate squads for their sexist attitudes about men, but I would be a hypocrite if I didn’t raise the same issue here.
It doesn’t happen much amongst the fathers movement, but we have to be held accountable to the same standard that we set.
I think it would be more productive to focus on the law and the double-standards in its application, than to question the intergrity of women.
And if yo really need me to point out an example, one needs to look no further than your first sentence.
Its fine to point out specific examples of women doing the wrong thing and getting away with it, but to suggest that women are sinister in general is no different than to suggest that men are perpertartors of child abuse in general.
Women are just as corrupt and just as honorable as you and I.
“empowering” psyco bitches to wreak havoc! What else would you expect from Juliar and Khate et all! this government has never acted in the best interests of children, only in the best interests of their feminist hate doctrine and this just another way legislate that doctrine and to subjugate men.
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I predict this new law will be a disaster, much like all the other policy disasters of this government.
Haven’t they got the message yet that good policy cannot be achieved by trying to appease vocal lobby groups?
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